thank you all for your kind words and concern.
my wife tells me the meeting with the three wise-men went pretty good.
regrettably, no elders were decked during the meeting (yes i am quite disappointed too) and so an announcement will be made next week that he was reproved and found repentant.
Great to hear freeman [except for the no fist throwing part of course ]
Getting off of the treadmill and catching your breath may let him finally see the possible life that he can have if he so decides. Be a good spiritual head Dad sow those seeds on the 'good soil'.
Winston.
the fanciful tale in the nt about jeus expelling demons from a man by sending them into 2000 swine who subsequently leap into the sea and drown, has always perplexed me.
aside from the contradictions and other problems in the two versians of the story(eg.
number of possessed men, no "sea" for 30 some miles from place of setting etc.
When my wife and I were doing the Bible reading this year [before my awakening and I was being a good head of the household] after we read this account in both of the Gospel books [forget which ones now] we read it, re-read it, and read it again.
She asked me if I understood the discrepencies between the two accounts, why they wanted to go in the pigs, why they jumped in the sea to die, etc..
I told her i didn't get it either, and usually I'm the know-it-all in the family. I'd research it more when I had some time. Of course, being a dub and trying to keep up with preparing for all the meetings and preparing for service, I never got to it, but was afraid there wouldn't be a real good answer.
Winston.
franz stated something in this mind-blowing book which was definitely true for me.. he stated (this is a poor paraphrase) that very early on during a "study", witnesses can easily show what's in the bible regarding god's name, the condition of the dead, living on paradise earth, etc.
once these are proven to a person's satisfaction, when the study moves on to more complicated matters, it is just easier to accept what isn't understood on the basis that so far, everything has seemed true.
by now, there is an emotional investment -and everything up until now seemed fine, so.....................................let's swallow it all, and what is too difficult to swallow comfortably (blood?
I too got Coc & ISoCF this week. They both were larger than I expected, but that all good with me.
Scanned a bit through CoC, it's really good.
Winston.
hello folks, it's been awhile since i have posted, hope everyone is doing well!
i have a question, though, if the society is not paying the governing body, or other "big wigs" in ny large salaries, what would be the motivating factor for the society to continue to exist?
i am not saying that money is everything, but if none of the money is going into pockets, then the society must really feel that they are god's chosen channel, or something to that effect.
Question: What keeps the Watchtower Society going?Vita
Easy, the wholy spear-it
Actually, I've concluded that the GB and other faithful R&F are delusional and fully believe all of the shat printed in the WT.
And that's the scary part. They REALLY believe that they are jehovers reps on earth.
Scary, but simple
Winston.
check this out.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2003/003/19.7.html .
jw's are the most likely to leave.
was actually going to ask: would this article be something to show to a JW? What do you guys think?BornAgainGirl!
If your asking would it open their minds, then I doubt it. To a JW who is intent and happy living with a closed mind, this article would be:
"written by apostates"
"off of the Internet which is run by the Debil."
"lies by the worldly, jehover-hating media"
"evidence that the end is really, really soon and the mighty jehover is weeding out the chaff from the Borg before the Big 'A'."
Girl, you could show Freddy Franz getting b-f'd by the Pope [no offense Catholics, just using an extreme example here for the sake of argument] while making the sign of the devil with his fingers and wearing a cross, and most JW's would rationalize the picture.
A closed mind is a closed mind, case closed.
Usually there has to be doubts in the JW's mind already formed on their own, then this would just be another seed planted for the final Awake!ning.
IMHO, Wintson.
the next day was going to be tough.
i had to do kind of a portfolio check session with the illustrators and work on some photo retouching for an up coming italian awake magazine and work with someone from the graphics department on the miniaturization issue.
as i walked around a little bit i noticed a large hell scanner sitting in a room with a plastic tarp over it.
Great work Dave!
Unwillingly I had already begun to commit the unforgivable sin, I began to be honest with myself and think for myself....
... I thought so much all I wanted to do was stop thinking. I didn't think I knew anything for sure anymore. I started to think I wished I didn't know what I knew.
But, I had to admit, I now knew one thing for sure, my life would never be the same.
7-006
Yep, it's funny that even though many of us take different roads to get there, it seems many of us eventually come to this point.
~
It's the what I now like to call my, "WTF???" moment.
Somebody pull the plug on my brain because I can't handle processing anymore lies or to run my brain through any more possible scenarios or life-altering decisions.
I want to take the blue pill instead. The red pill sucks; ...I know it's not steak, but it tastes like steak and that's good enough for me, so turn me back into a f'ing battery. [Matrix ref for those lost here]
Or as shotgun describes it:
then I started to realize it didn't matter how much more shit I added to the pile..it was still shit.
shotgun
Now get back to work and finish your projects Dave. I got three projects due today that I have been putting off reading this site. I can't afford to lose anymore time reading your excellent life story.
Winston.
someone will be very disappointed tomorrow morning!
i am home on maternity leave right now, and this has given me the opportunity to meet people in our neighborhood that i might never have come in contact with otherwise.
a few weeks ago, i started chatting with a mother who was out for a walk with her toddler.
Great job Caligirl!
Too bad this happened in Sept though. I would have liked to seen your hours and placements counted before the new service year started to inflate our yearly apostate report.
Winston.
i was thinking about some of the old jw urban legends that we grew up with and believed in as jws.
most of the ones i remember revolved around stories about demons, and jws being "attacked" when they would do something wrong.
some of these legends scared the crap outta me when i was little.
Scully, I heard that one too.... and believed it.
Dannybear stood up at an assembly during one of Fred Franz "keynote addresess" and said....."prove what your saying is from Jehovah" and fire flew out of Fred's eyes and burned Danny's yard sale polyester suit! That was a doo-zy I tell ya!
Gumby
LMFAO!
Gumby, you sure that instead of the suit being burned it wasn't a Hoaggie being cooked?
I could have sworn that I heard it was his Hoaggie that was comsumed by fire, even though Dannybear dug a moat around the Hoaggie and filled it with water.
took a ride to montreal today and rode all around the city, and i heard a song on radio that i liked and now i can't get that song out of my head.
when i got home, i downloaded it.
"innocence by harlequin".
Bon Jovi's "Blaze of Glory" has been stuck in my head all day now.
Winston.
check this out.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2003/003/19.7.html .
jw's are the most likely to leave.
JW's are the most likely to leave. I wonder why? Loris
They're moving to where the need is greater
Winston.
